Difference between revisions of "Talk:BDSM FAQ"

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This page pretty much reads like it was written by a fucking tool. [[Special:Contributions/78.129.148.101|78.129.148.101]]
 
  
  

Revision as of 13:10, 10 March 2014


I think this page needs to be broken into pieces somehow. It's getting far too long and far too difficult to navigate. Also, some of it is horribly leaning towards one specific role when the topic regards multiple roles, i.e. 51 How come no one respects that I'm a Master/slave/other role? talking about being respected as a Master and nothing about being respected as a slave or (insert x role here).

"Open to debate"

The header of the page currently says "much of the content is open to debate and alternate viewpoints are indeed valid" -- I'm sorry. It's open to debate, yet locked to editing? If there are people actually vandalizing the page, can we at least get a template a la wikipedia's vandalism template? Simply disagreeing with alternate viewpoints isn't a good reason to lock a page. At least use this discussion page for debate. -- Wulfrath

I definitely vote for using the discussion page for debate at the moment. I think the page is currently locked to editing from non-members because of the vandalizing. A good part of the FAQ was completely destroyed because of people posting the extremist negative view that the kink community is just a place for harboring abusers and rapists. I do vote for the vandalism template if we can get one here. -- Sabryna

By the way, use a leading colon to reply with indentation. That makes it easier to read the comments. If you think that a 54-item list should be discussed in a single talk page, that's not going to happen. A single topic can generate enough controversy to fill up an entire talk page. Have you ever seen wikipedia? This article needs to be split. We should be using categories to track FAQ items, not having a single monolithic page with one guy's opinions. -- Wulfrath 07:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Holy shit, magical indentation. I know I'm crazy, but I'm not that crazy. I'm currently posting ideas on how to split the goddamn page into actual articles because I keep getting lost. I've been working on answering the questions I can and figuring out how to categorize them as I go. Help me out with categorization? I started a new topic in here for it. -- Sabryna

Use of drugs / alcohol during play

This section, as shown, is quite frankly horseshit. However, since I can't fix it, I will start off by pointing out that "drugs" includes mind-altering prescription medication, including acute anxiolitics. The page should at least be nuanced enough to make the distinction between drugs that make someome more lucid versus less lucid. -- Wulfrath 07:51, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

How would you like to see it reworded? It's honestly making a whole lot of no sense to me at the moment as well, as it reads more like a rant than anything. -- Sabryna

Sorting Things Onto Pages

Some of these questions really should belong on pages about the things they're asking about. List time! Feel free to edit

For example, under BDSM (as a page on its own):

  • What does BDSM Stand for?
  • This BDSM stuff sounds interesting, what is good starting advice?
  • Is BDSM abuse? How could someone possibly like getting hit with things and not be insane?
  • Is BDSM illegal?
  • I'm all about getting kinky in the bedroom, but some of this stuff people do is just plain disgusting and/or crazy. How can people possibly like that extreme stuff? It all just seems so sick to me.

Relationships and BDSM

  • I have kids, how can my partner and I possibly do this stuff?/I want to have kids one day, I don't think I can get into this stuff.
  • Do dominants really love and care for their submissives?
  • What if BDSM ruins my relationship with my significant other?
  • How can I make my boyfriend/girlfriend into my dom/sub?
  • Is it really cheating if...?


Under Consent:

  • Is it really a consent violation just to touch someone's hand/hair/etc.?
  • My bottom didn't negotiate sex with me before the scene because that was kind of an uncomfortable topic, but when we started playing we had this amazing connection... Is it OK to have sex with them? That's what they are really there for anyway, right?
  • I saw someone not following best practices concerning BDSM like I read in all the books and now I'm freaking out and hyperventilating into a bag; what should I do?

Under Negotiations (could go hand in hand with consent, or separate pages)

  • How do I negotiate a scene?
  • My bottom didn't negotiate sex with me before the scene because that was kind of an uncomfortable topic, but when we started playing we had this amazing connection... Is it OK to have sex with them? That's what they are really there for anyway, right?
  • I have something I'm having trouble telling my Dom, what should I do?
  • Do I have to have sex with someone in order to play with them?

Checking in on this, yes the page was locked due to some vandalism. It's not locked to admin status, just those with confirmed accounts (did you respond to the email confirmation?). The notion of splitting it into pages is likely in the works because it's a huge mess that is still being initially authored, but even with breaking it down keeping the question itself posted to the FAQ for easy nav to the section. I'm thinking many pages are going to end up with a Best Practices area, even disciplines, such as mentioning most fire play experts suggest starting with 70% iso... point being a lot of this can and should be reworded, probably through several edits, and if you have an edit to suggest, consider dropping it right here or in the fet group if you think it's big enough that others should have a crack at tearing it up before it gets posted. As far as structuring data, there is a quasi-plan, but it is a wiki, so things change and evolve over time, hopefully for the better.

--Admin (talk) 12:40, 10 March 2014 (UTC)